Q&A: 7.62x51mm in a .308 Win. Lever-Action

by
posted on July 16, 2020
** When you buy products through the links on our site, we may earn a commission that supports NRA's mission to protect, preserve and defend the Second Amendment. **
762-federal-1.jpg

From the vault: A reader-submitted question about 7.62x51mm ammunition extraction problems in a .308 Win. lever-action rifle. As published in the October 2001 issue of Shooting Sports USA.

Q. I had extraction problems while shooting surplus military TZ 80 7.62x51mm NATO ammunition in a Model 99 Savage. The first shot from a clean rifle resulted in a case stuck in the chamber that extracted with difficulty. Another TZ 80 round stuck in the chamber so tightly that the extractor slipped off the rim and the case had to be tapped out. The rest of the TZ 80 ammunition was used in a bolt-action rifle and functioned perfectly; bolt lift was not sticky, primers were not flattened and the fired brass measures within tolerances. The temperature that day was between 20 and 30 degrees. I seem to remember reading that some 9mm Parabellum ammunition was loaded for use in submachine guns and was not appropriate for use in pistols, which leads me to wonder if some 7.62 NATO ammunition might have been loaded to higher pressures for specific uses? Could the TZ arsenal be in some foreign country that loads to higher pressures than the U.S.?

A. The difficulty you are having with the Israeli NATO ammunition in your Savage Model 99 is caused by two separate problems. Cartridges made to NATO standards are a little different than commercial sporting .308 Win. ammunition. There are very minor differences in the shoulder and neck of the cases, and small differences in the chambering between military rifles and sporting rifles. These differences don't mean much in bolt-action rifles because they have a stronger extraction process than the lever-action Savage. The lever-action extracts using a straight, rearward motion, while the bolt-action not only pulls to the rear but also twists the fired case, making the extraction much more positive. We don't know of any pressure problems in NATO standard ammunition, so we don't think you have any problem with the Israeli cartridges from that standpoint.

Submit your questions to [email protected].

Photo: Federal Ammunition 7.62x51mm NATO 149-grain XM80 FMJ cartridge.


See more: .30-Caliber Twist Rates

Latest

2025 ISSF WCF DOHA 3
2025 ISSF WCF DOHA 3

Hancock and Simonton Crowned 2025 ISSF Shotgun Athletes of the Year

Vincent Hancock and Samantha Simonton earned 2025 ISSF Shotgun Athlete of the Year honors, highlighting a dominant week for Team USA in Doha.

What’s In Your Range Bag, Mike Hwang?

IPSC medalist Mike Hwang breaks down his range bag gear, shooting setup and key tips for new and competitive shooters.

Six Medals for Team USA at the 2025 ISSF World Cup Final

USA Shooting’s shotgun squad owned the 2025 ISSF World Cup Final, delivering dominant performances across skeet and trap and collecting a haul of hard-earned medals.

Doug Koenig: Eight-Time World Action Pistol Champion Talks Victory and 2026 Plans

Doug Koenig recounts his eighth World Action Pistol Championship win in New Zealand, training adjustments, travel challenges and 2026 plans.

SK Guns Reveals Its 2025 Gun of The Year: The ‘Jesús Malverde’ Colt 1911

SK Guns announces its 2025 Gun of the Year, a Colt 1911 transformed into a rare collectible that pays tribute to legendary Mexican folk hero Jesús Malverde.

LA28 Shooting Event Finals Will Be Faster and Better Built for Broadcast

ISSF unveils revamped finals for 10 LA28 Olympic shooting events, expanding fields, tightening timing and reshaping mixed-team formats after Paris 2024 review.

Interests



Get the best of Shooting Sports USA delivered to your inbox.